As you will see from my other blog pages, I initially started looking into bitwine.com due to the experience of a friend for which one of the advisors defrauded him of US$157.30 and then tried to extort US$6226 from him.
I have just found new information that is VERY VERY concerning. That is, anyone who uses bitwine.com risks that their information will be:
- Passed from "advisor" to "advisor" without the clients permission or awareness
- "Advisors" communicate with each other behind the scenes using social media risking information entering the public domain
"Love Therapist (psychicwhitts)". The profile can be viewed here: http://psychic.bitwine.com/psychics/389894-psychicwhitts
The thread has since been deleted by bitwine.com, and Yishai suspects that "Jamey" has had a hand in this deletion. I have written about the thread here:
http://bitwinescams.blogspot.com.au/2016/12/bitwinecom-scam-deletes-threads-that.html
The really concerning thing for me is that as I have investigated this, I have only been able to confirm Yishai's suspicions that Bitwine itself is likely part of these extortion scams of its advisors.
I have to say, initially, I thought that Yishai was just being emotional, however, now I would put money on it. Especially when it appears that bitwine.com itself receives 25% of all monies paid to the socalled "psychics".
Well, I have been doing some research and I believe in all likelihood Yishai is on the money with his guess!
Jamey, psychic 75771, it turns out appears to be a key player in the racket if a report on http://www.ripoffreport.com is anything to go by.
You will see in my blog talking about the thread Yishai started on bitwine.com that they have deleted, that is certainly appears that the (fake) psychics can prevent a client from leaving feedback.
If that actually is the case then the feedback scores are unable to be used as a guide to choose one of their "psychics". It would make sense to allow some unsatisfactory and satisfactory reviews through where the content was not too indicting, to give the appearance of honesty, however, restrict any brutally honest reviews. I suspect this is exactly what bitwine.com does.
As to the leaking of personal information, the full report is at http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/bitwinecom/new-york-new-york-/bitwinecom-leaks-personal-information-and-their-advisors-talk-about-exchanged-private-in-1006508 however, I will share some of the key comments here with you. Be alarmed if you have ever used bitwine.com!
Although it seems evident that the scam ring of this organised crime, involved with bitwine.com itself, involves their senior and recommended advisors, and that the owners of bitwine.com itself are likely involved due to the seeming extent of the frauds and subsequent cover-ups.
The particular "psychic" this ripoff report deals with pertains to "Jamey" whose profile is viewable here http://psychic.bitwine.com/users/75771-jamey
Have a look at some of the comments from this victim:
Be careful guys, Bitwine advisors LEAK your personal information. The advisors have a forum on facebook where they exchange scripts and personal information of their clients.. Esp, Jamey
the fact that YOU shared my name on an OPEN forum just showed how "confidential" our sessions were.
Jennifer "the manager of bitwine" is friends with the psychics on bitwine.. including Jamie Seer The Voice. God
She leaked and revealed my real name in their advisors only forum and bitwine did nothing about this and she still gives "readings" on the website
I discovered this and reported the advisor to bitwine and I got banned from the website..
also be careful the transcripts WILL stay in their database.. They REFUSE to delete them because of the "laws.". lol so just be careful when you use this website as they may leak your personal information to other people without your consent.
You guys made "predictions". On your page it says that "predictions that do happen.". NONE of your predictions came true. I had every right to question your integrity.
Stop calling yourself psychic or Seer's voice, Jamey. You are nothing but uneducated soccer mom who preys on people's weakness.
You people are nothing but uneducated people who give people cold reading and SCAMMING our hard earned money.
What you and bitwine do on daily basis is just scam people. that's why you people have "the only for entertainment purposes only" disclaimer.
Be smart people. and more importantly. Bitwine and Jennifer are ignoring my emails in regards to this situation. I guess as long as "psychics" like Jamey making money for them and bitwine get the 25% cut. who cares if the clients are the victim. Jamey clearly stated my name in an open forum.Anyone who has had any experience with scammers will know that one of their first defenses is to accuse the victim. In this case Jamey accused the victim of performing illegal activities, of course it appears to be projection. At least on ripoff review the victim is able to respond:
You accuse me of doing illegal activities when you yourself leaked my personal information.
People like you who can't find real job are good at what you do. LYING and SCAMMING people..Unfortunately for this victim, paypal ruled in favour of the seemingly fake psychic. Take this as a warning anyone considering bitwine.com, the money back guarantees of the "advisors" mean absolutely nothing.
Paypal ruled in your favor because paypal cannot actually investigate if your predictions did happen or not. as long as you showed them the transcript. and you did give me the reading. and I claimed it wasn't as advertised. because it wasnt. it wasnt accurate or real.Despite the rebuttal from "Jamie", unlikely to be her real name, this particular victim does at least have some backing to his claim.
YOU SCAM PEOPLE.
Personally, if I was ever going to consider a psychic, which I am not, and I doubt will, this group of people in the Bitwine.com facebook group would be my first choice to stay the hell away from!
His screenshots are below:
